Council Motion Regarding St Luke’s (the bombed out) Church

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Attached below is a motion that I am placing before the next meeting of the City Council. I hope that it won’t be debated because I have made no comments about how we got to this position or why. I simply want the council to unanimously agree a way forward which preserves this building which is clearly so important in the view of so many people.

I will, of course, keep you informed of what the other Parties say and whether or not I think we can manage a consensus way forward which I hope should be possible.

What do you think? Comment here or e-mail me at Richard.kemp@liverpool.gov.uk

St Luke’s Church by Cllr Richard Kemp CBE

Council notes with concern the confusion about the future of St Luke’s Church.

It places on record its view that the building should be retained in council ownership but managed by a new non-profit making trust established with the aims of:

  • Keeping intact the heritage and culture of the Church particularly in so far as it’s commemoration of the civilians killed in WWII bombings and those Irish people who died after famines whilst trying to seek a new life in the New World.
  • Applying for grants to enable the stabilisation and continued upkeep of the building
  • Run appropriate activities in the building which would provide an income towards running costs but respect the building’s heritage.

It requests the Director of Regeneration to report urgently to the Regeneration Select Committee and the Cabinet about the implications of this motion with a view to its early implementation.

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About richardkemp

Leader of the Liberal Democrats in Liverpool. . Deputy Chair and Lib Dem Spokesperson on the LGA Community Wellbeing Board. Married to the lovely Cllr Erica Kemp CBE with three children and four grandchildren.
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18 Responses to Council Motion Regarding St Luke’s (the bombed out) Church

  1. Adam Manley says:

    After all the hard work’s been done, the petition has been made and promoted to the point of over 25,770 signatures, then all of a sudden Mr Kemp CBE, steps in to hand the council a motion that he hopes ‘won’t be debated because I have made no comments about how we got to this position or why,’ … I smell a rat !
    This is why I was dubious about giving my support to the original petition in the 1st place, this is why I questioned it’s origin, and it wasn’t started by USL.
    Maybe i’m being paranoid, I certainly hope so…
    I think the question needs asking and answering though

    Politicians…you’re all the bloody same, only out to further your own political aspirations

    • richardkemp says:

      Adam. This is because of the way the council’s standing orders work. If I put down a motion critical of the Mayor Labour will vote it down. If I ignore that for now and put down something which looks to the future that we all want for the church then it might go through. Political posturing is fun and I do it sometimes but I would prefer a positive outcome for this iconic building.

      • Adam Manley says:

        New petition for you all to sign.
        Will you be jumping on the back of this one as well Richard…?
        How about you leave us to it and stop manipulating the situation to suit your own ends, i’m sure we’ll get on just fine without you…by the way, I don’t have any political interests, my opinions don’t meet any of the parties ideals, so I choose to abstain, just in case you were going to question my motives

      • richardkemp says:

        I don’t question other people’s motives Adam but you feel free to question mine. For the record almost the first vote I ever took part in within the council almost 40 years ago was to stop the Lyceum being demolished. That’s 40 years of consistency.

  2. joedd says:

    no one ever challenged ”the mayor”

    • Adam Manley says:

      He said recently that if we get 60,000 signatures that he’d resign…let’s see what we can do about that.

    • Alan says:

      Then of course there is this other alternative brought forward by Derek Hughes and I quote ” I have been reading about Joe Anderson’s antics when he lost the vote to become chair of the regional authority in the Echo. Unfortunately it sounds like the mayor is a person unlikely to change his mind on anything whether it be petitions or logical arguments or massive opposition from the people of Liverpool. Joe is mayor but is not a councillor. It is time I think to focus his attention. There never was a referendum on whether we wanted a mayor. The rules state that if 5 % of the electorate sign a petition ( about 16,000 people ) then a referendum must be held . Found this one which was started in November. I have just signed it giving bombed out church as reason. Whether it gets to 16,000 or not and whether, if a referendum were to be held, it would remove the post of mayor remains to be seen. But if it starts to get big numbers I think he will start to listen rather than just give out platitudes.
      http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/liverpool-city-council-referendum-on-mayoral-system” Just saying…. Personally I haven’t as yet signed this one but it is food for thought !!

  3. Alan says:

    Richard you left a statement on this active groups page regarding their ongoing attempt to ” Save St’ Luke’s” https://www.facebook.com/groups/1484046601815006/ …This is part of your statement ” The idea of listing it as a community asset is a great one. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help” And yes we would welcome your help….We would also like some help in regard to making the grounds and building of St’ Luke’s into an Official War Memorial, with War Memorial status.

    Regards.

    Alan Mackinnell.

  4. Alan says:

    Is it true that Signature Living’s plans to turn St Luke’s into a hotel/wedding venue have been dropped… what’s the latest on this Richard ??

    • richardkemp says:

      It would appear that public pressure has worked and the immediate way is overs we must not, however, take the pressure off. Let’s look together at all the ideas that have been put the table to safeguard the church into the future. That is why I pug a money point scoring motion to the next council meeting to try and achieve a consensus. GUIs building and what it represents is more important than politicians blundering around

  5. Neil Tabor says:

    Richard, I have a few issues here.
    1. It appears to me that Mayor Joe Anderson is not willing to meet the people of Liverpool face to face, instead using you Tube to get his views across. Also it would be good if you cam along to the Bombed out Church on Saturday 12th April at 2pm, and speak to all of us who will be there.
    2. If you were willing to put your name to either or both of the following, it would help, Community asset/War Memorial.
    3. I have submitted a FOI, the the annual running costs of upkeep for St Luke’s, is this something that you can ask at the next meeting.

    I also cannot believe that the Riverside Councillor did not know about this, until it was in the papers, and we started the FB campaign.

    Does Louise Ellman, Riverside MP, and the other Liverpool MP’s know?

    • richardkemp says:

      Saturday 12tj April at 2p.m. Is now in my diary. With regards to 2 I think we should explore both options and am happy to put my name to both ideas. They are not mutually exclusive. I have also asked for details for the running and maintenance costs. I am afraid that it is quite possible that no-one else in the Labour Group knew of these proposals. Joe has a habit of bouncing things on loll of us.

      • Neil Tabor says:

        Hi Richard,
        Thank you for your response.

        On the 12th at the meeting, do you think other councillors will attend?
        It would be good if they did, so they can fully understand what the people of this city feel on this issue.
        We need the support from them, as we elect them.

  6. Alan says:

    Richard have you listened to this recording https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eO_UluFrNFQ&feature=youtu.be in it Joe makes reference to it being a war memorial…now I wonder how official that is ??

    • richardkemp says:

      It has always been considered a memorial to the civilians who dies in the blitz but I don’t think it is designated as such. I will see if there is a way of achieving such a designation.

  7. Alan says:

    What was it you where saying about the 16th and having some one there to make the point ??

    • richardkemp says:

      It’s a meeting of the city council starting at 5 at the Town Hall. 6 people can address the council for 5 minutes. But you would need to book a slot ASAP

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